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• eledril
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 15, 2011 - 06:54 AM

  I was a little disappointed to see the results of this year's Packt Open Source Awards.
  Best Open Source CMS
  
  Winner: Joomla!
  1st Runner up: Drupal
  2nd Runner up: Plone
  
  I've never even heard of Plone. I think this might be something that the Foundation might want to take a look at to improve Zikula. I have used Zikula since it was PostNuke and am quite happy with it. I think that work is needed to improve the visibility of Zikula as well as increase the number of sites using it.
  
  Just thought I'd mention it.
  
  The full results are available at http://www.packtpub.…-source-awards-home
  
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• espaan
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 15, 2011 - 10:17 AM

  Hi, to be honest I have also never heard op Packt
  
  But it is clear that some other systems out there have much higher visibility. That is something indeed.
  
  sceptism on..
  BTW it is a panel of judges that also decides and it appears that they do sell a lot of books on web software. And of course when the popular systems win they can sell more books. Also keep that in mind. I tend to be quite skeptical when I see these kind of contest where a lot of money can be won as well.
  
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• bronto
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 15, 2011 - 03:37 PM

  The time to pursue awards is after Clip is done, Module Studio is more complete and 1.3.x is a packaged distro.

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• espaan
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 15, 2011 - 07:35 PM

  Indeed. I think MOST BTW is quite complete.
  
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• bronto
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 04:57 AM

  It's really great, no doubt. But it's still versioned at 0.53, and Guite says better workflow support is coming. It also occurred to me yesterday that supporting "my model" in Accounts would be a nice feature too. I think a lot more of those little things will start popping up as requests as more people start using it.

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• eledril
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 09:31 AM

  I have found that most of the awards that are "worth winning" either cost a fortune to enter (to be even considered as a nominee), are skewed towards a certain segment (in my case, print media as opposed to online) or are judged by people who, in some cases, are not even in the same industry.
  Yes, awards are great, but as the great Garrison Keillor once said, "They don't give awards to people who are having fun doing what they do, awards to to people who make it look hard."
  As I always like to say when I don't win an award, "There's always next year".
  
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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 10:02 AM

  Since when had Zikula been considered a CMS? Possibly Zikula will need to raise the bar in order to be in the same class as those considered for "Best Open Source CMS". Zikula makes a very good framework but a crappy CMS.

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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 11:47 AM

  That's like Saying Office is a Crappy Operating System :)
  
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• nestormateo
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:51 PM

  But mesteele is right,
  Zikula's CMS capabilities are far underdeveloped
  and Clip's development copy is also underutilized to get its power.
  
  The discussion of Framework vs CMS is quite large
  and still not resolved in the core itself.
  
  Zikula 2.0 is still pointing to be far better framework than the 1,3 series
  while 1.3's CMS capabilities are still not complete until Clip comes to the scene.
  
  That's the status I guess
  the CMS waited the end of my holidays to finish Clip
  and I'm on it
  
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• espaan
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 07:25 PM

  I still use and consider Zikula my favorite CMS Does that now mean I like Crap ?
  I think what web software is lies a lot with the user and developer of a website.
  
  With Content, News, Clip and the new Media application for Zikula 1.3 the future will only be brighter and for me it is already quite good lit.
  
  What awards like this of course very good for is seeing what other popular systems do and try to learn where you can.
  
  
  
  Edited by espaan on Nov 17, 2011 - 08:26 AM.
  
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• eledril
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 07:47 PM

  I agree Erik. I tend to look at award winning websites that are in the same general category as mine and look at ways to improve.
  I'm glad that I was able to get a discussion going about what's coming and what still needs to be done with Zikula. I'm hopeful that Clip will help to make it a force to be reckoned with on the CMS/Framework scene.
  
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