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• Wendell
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 06:49 AM

  I'm just wondering if we can get a status report on Clip/PageMaster. I go to the Cozi and the source is last dated August 3, 2010. I go to the Github page and the source is last dated August 18, 2010. Word has it that it is on the way, but where exactly is the proper place to get it?
  
  The Cozi page has a link to download 0.4.2. But even though the Github source is 15 days newer, it will not install in Zikula 1.3 ("invalid structure") and the filename is "zikula-modules-Clip-0.4.1-103-g0fbb203", which leads one to believe it is version 0.4.1.
  
  What and where is the real and latest dev download? Is there one? I would really like to test with Zikula 1.3 so I can have a head start on the many projects I plan to use this for.
  
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• dks
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 07:25 AM

  I'm getting concerned. My development has been stalled once again. I understand that it's in pre-release form, but it's been unusable for too long.

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• drak
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 02:50 PM

  Development of code under GIT is not like SVN because commits can be made offline. This allows one to create actual working branches and not branches that may be broken at some commit. Mateo has been working extensively on the 'doctrine' branch which brings all the new Zikula 1.3 features + relations into Clip.
  
  There will be an update about this soon.
  
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• nestormateo
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 03:31 PM

  Hi all
  As said on the mailing list, the GIT folder needs to be renamed to 'PageMaster' instead Clip because the code functions are not renamed yet. I'll finish and commit the last stuff to get the Doctrine relations running tomorrow I hope, I got some fatigue in front of the computer lately.
  
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• Wendell
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 05:42 PM

  Cool, thanks for the updates, guys. Looking forward to playing around with all the new goodies!
  
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• dks
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 29, 2010 - 07:42 PM

  Super duper. I have lots of ideas I need to doink around with.

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• damon
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 09:27 AM

  nestormateo

  I'll finish and commit the last stuff to get the Doctrine relations running tomorrow I hope,
  Greetz

  
  
  When this is ready, is this the right place to find it?
  http://github.com/zi…ules/Clip/downloads
  
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• drak
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 04:56 PM

  Until we actually release Zikula 1.3.0, no module can be released that is Zikula 1.3.0 specific because, Zikula 1.3.0 is still a development version and anything can (and in a few cases will) be changed. The official place for all released modules will continue to the extdb however RC releases may be available from each module's github diownload page (these are generated automatically when a module is tagged). Clip may make it's way onto the continuous integration server also.
  
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• nestormateo
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 08:59 PM

  CI for Clip would be nice,
  even when github already provides the "Download Source" button at the top.
  
  Now I'm figuring out the clip_formrelation plugin to handle the relations in the edit form, and IMO, the modern way to manage the relations nowadays is with a Javascript AutoCompleter. Any objections to rely on Javascript for this? Manual IDs or a fixed selector are not too good options IMHO.
  
  I was expecting different behaviours on Doctrine 1.2 and that gave me a little surprise, and this is the last thing to get sorted. Opinions please?
  
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• bronto
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 04:27 AM

  There are times when I've had to remove javascript from some modules for some reason or another. Not sure why I'd want to do it in Clip, but you never know. If I were paying you I'd require a solution that would work in any browser. But I'm not, so... :)

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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 05:31 AM

  I'm with bronto, there needs to be a non-java fall back.
  
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• Wendell
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 12:30 PM

  Better yet, how about a non-javascript fall back?
  
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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 01:46 PM

  Don't make me stalk you next time I see you're in the Rose City Wendell. I may have to Gibbs slap ya :)
  
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• drak
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 05:05 PM

  I think we had some discussions about this a long time ago and it's more and more relevant today than ever: that for administrative tasks, requiring JS is not unacceptable any more. There are literally dozens of services now which require Ajax capabilities. A JS fallback is always nice but not a 100% must. I think the better compromise in this situation is that, in order to get the features up and working, first let's follow Mateo's recommendation and have the JS stuff, then work on a JS fallback in a later milestone since lack of JS fallback could not be seen as a blocker.
  
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• bronto
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 05:20 PM

  I hadn't thought of this in terms of admin vs. non-admin. I agree it is reasonable to have higher requirements for admin tasks, although it is not desirable. I say, "proceed" Mateo. We can deal with non-js later.

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