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• Murdoc
  
  

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  Posted: Dec 31, 2009 - 04:12 PM

  I know that PN isn't really supported anymore, but I've run into a small problem with my overall attempt to get to Zikula. The site is .723, so as I understand it I need to upgrade first to .764, then to Zik. Ok, so I have downloaded all the files I need, and am following the instructions to get to .764. Second step says to make sure that a certain list of modules are all initialized and active. Most of them on my site are of course, but some are missing entirely (like Header-Footer and Xanthia), so I don't know if this is going to be a problem or not if I proceed without them. Also, the module "Censor" exists in the module list, but won't initialize; all I get is a BLANK SCREEN. Reloading the page or regenerating the list seems to change nothing; it just keeps showing as uninitialized. I checked the files for the site and the Censor ones appear to all be there (if any are missing I wouldn't really know), and the perms seem fine as well. I've followed the instructions for enabling error code display as mentioned on the Wiki for BLANK SCREEN, but neither of the two options there worked, instead disabling my whole site with a 500 error (incorrect additions to the .htaccess and/or config.php files, so I removed the changes), so no help from error codes I guess.
  I don't really want to proceed without this being done correctly, so I'm asking if anyone has any ideas. I'd spend more time on it myself but my provider is switching from PHP4 to 5 soon and I'm afraid that I won't even be able to upgrade to .764 once that happens. TIA

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• kaffeeringe.de
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 01, 2010 - 05:44 AM

  Welcome back!
  
  Perhaps you should try and update it locally. The advantage: Everything is MUCH faster. Once your site is locally updated, you can upload the local version and use that. Moreover as master of your own webserver you can set run-times to higher values and so on.
  
  Download all files, dump the DB, install xampp oder something the like, copy the files into webroot, import the DB-dump and change the config.php to fit you local enviroment.
  
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• Teb
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 01, 2010 - 10:56 AM

  So if I understand correctly, you were able to upgrade to .764, with one failure: The Censor module wouldn't initialize? Did you use that module in .723 at all?
  
  Steffens tip is valuable, with another advantage: You are able to test new features or layout changes for your site wothout having to modify your real website.
  
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• Murdoc
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 01, 2010 - 02:24 PM

  Teb

  So if I understand correctly, you were able to upgrade to .764, with one failure: The Censor module wouldn't initialize? Did you use that module in .723 at all?

  
  
  No, I didn't use it. It was not active or initialized. And no, I didn't finish the upgrade to .764, I stopped at step 2 there because I couldn't initialize that one module, and as I said I didn't want to proceed if that was likely to screw it up.
  
  I suppose I could try it in xampp. I didn't think it would work properly in it, but if you guys think it will I'll give it a try. I've tried setting up my own LAMP, but could not get it working which is why I tried xampp for other stuff. But if xampp could work then I'll give that a try. But do you think that that module not being initialized will mess it up? Or the other mods being missing? If it does, I'll still need to figure out how to get around that. At least I can get around the hosting issue (I hope) to try it out. Thanks guys!

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• craigh
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 01, 2010 - 04:39 PM

  If you didn't use the censor module, I think you can go ahead and run the upgrade. of course BACKUP everything in case it bails.
  
  if you decide it is needed, here is the censor module from PN .726 (that's the earliest I could find, sorry). maybe that would help...

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• drak
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 02, 2010 - 01:32 AM

  Murdoc

  
  I suppose I could try it in xampp. I didn't think it would work properly in it, but if you guys think it will I'll give it a try. I've tried setting up my own LAMP, but could not get it working which is why I tried xampp for other stuff. But if xampp could work then I'll give that a try.

  
  
  I do all my development in Windows using xampp so it definitely works I also have a Debian LAMP stack (running in Virtualbox).
  
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• drak
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 02, 2010 - 01:33 AM

  You might also want to try this advice: http://community.zik…art-0.htm#pid253961
  
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• Murdoc
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 02, 2010 - 02:29 PM

  craigh

  If you didn't use the censor module, I think you can go ahead and run the upgrade. of course BACKUP everything in case it bails.

  
  
  I'm only concerned about it because the upgrade docs say:
  
  

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  Make sure that all the modules listed below are initialized, and that they are active.
  state. This step is vital when upgrading, because a number of core
  modules (notably Admin, Blocks and Modules) will be upgraded in this release, and must
  be initialized and active for the upgrade process to be successful. These modules
  are as follows:

  
  
  Maybe if I don't use them it won't be a big deal.
  
  

  Drak

  I do all my development in Windows using xampp so it definitely works

  
  
  Ok, I'll give it a shot. We'll see if the upgrade can work without these mods (fingers crossed). Thanks!
  
  Man does it take a long time to d/l all those files!

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