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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 04:43 AM

  Is there a solution for users to post attachments to topics and replies?

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• myths
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 05:59 AM

  MediaAttach can be a solution

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• nestormateo
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 06:48 AM

  Can be, but there's still a work to do on the Permissions definitions and a pretty friendly way to add them.
  
  Log a ticket and ideas about how it may work on its Cozi space please
  we're progressively solving this stuff in the Third Party Modules. News 2.5 will rock BTW.
  
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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 09:57 AM

  The problem with third party modules is that major revisions of of the core usually break them. IMHO, it would be better for the Dizkus core to have file attach built in. This is something that is useful to a LOT of users.
  
  IMHO, I also believe bbsmile, bbcode should be built into the Dizkus core.
  
  News 2.5: Is there somewhere we can get a preview or download?

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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 10:14 AM

  nestormateo

  Can be, but there's still a work to do on the Permissions definitions and a pretty friendly way to add them.
  
  Log a ticket and ideas about how it may work on its Cozi space please
  we're progressively solving this stuff in the Third Party Modules. News 2.5 will rock BTW.

  
  
  I just downloaded and installed 2.5 on my development site. Looks nice. What I was wondering is; Is there a side block that will display like x number of the latest news articles, listing each, with a condensed title and date posted?
  
  
  
  edited by: mesteele101, datetimebrief

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• craigh
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 11:02 AM

  mesteele101

  ...it would be better for the Dizkus core to have file attach built in...IMHO, I also believe bbsmile, bbcode should be built into the Dizkus core.

  
  
  the problem with large monolithic packages is that they are harder to maintain and upgrade. smaller, modular packages are better IMO and more inline with the philosophy of Zikula.
  
  

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  The problem with third party modules is that major revisions of of the core usually break them.

  
  This is only the case when a module developer doesn't keep up with the Zikula API (or never attempted in the first place). For the most part, the API has remained pretty stable for some time.

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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 05:52 PM

  The problem is that some of the developers that program these hooks sometimes don't hang around from one major upgrade to the next, or they just don't take the time to make updates in a timely manner. This is not a good thing for the core program. I think that something is used by a majority of the people should be incorporated into the core. I know it's more work for the core programming team, but it's better for Zikula.
  
  I was happy for a long time using PNphpBB2 but that module is failing. There are reasons behind this, but IMHO, this is hurting Zikula. The big save, IMHO, is Dizkus. It's being actively developed, and it's progressing, unlike Zafenio (phpbb3), which, on the user side, we've seen nothing, and it's been years in the development stages. At that rate of development we could see phpbb4 before seeing any release of Zafenio.
  
  The bottom line, IMHO, is that hopefully the Zikula project will bring a lot of the modules back into the core project, and that major modules like Dizkus will try and build as many hooks into the core, that a majority of the users use. This is a win for everyone, and it's a better way to have control over the core project.
  
  
  
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• nestormateo
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 08:38 PM

  IMHO it's demonstrated that a modular structure is pretty more powerful than a all-in-one package. In fact, that have been our work all this time, to decouple stuff and make it clean to have a good base. Currently, Drak is introducing a EventManager for Zikula 1.3. With it, I guess we'll able to rock the "Hooks" concept to its maximum expression.
  
  

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  What I was wondering is; Is there a side block that will display like x number of the latest news articles, listing each, with a condensed title and date posted?

  Sure, as always, it just need template customization to look in the way you want. There are the simple stories block, and the storiesext (Extended) introduced by Erik Spaan
  
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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2009 - 01:20 AM

  nestormateo

  IMHO it's demonstrated that a modular structure is pretty more powerful than a all-in-one package. In fact, that have been our work all this time, to decouple stuff and make it clean to have a good base. Currently, Drak is introducing a EventManager for Zikula 1.3. With it, I guess we'll able to rock the "Hooks" concept to its maximum expression.
  
  

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  What I was wondering is; Is there a side block that will display like x number of the latest news articles, listing each, with a condensed title and date posted?

  Sure, as always, it just need template customization to look in the way you want. There are the simple stories block, and the storiesext (Extended) introduced by Erik Spaan

  
  
  I'm not condoning all in one modules, but my thoughts are that building certian core features into the modules could only help preserve the core module form one update to the next. I always thougt that attaching a file to a post was a core feature of any forum, and with most it is. I do understand that the cores are built like race cars.
  
  I did find the block for the news module.
  
  Thanks...

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• marsu
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 19, 2010 - 08:09 PM

  myths

  MediaAttach can be a solution

  
  
  Last time I tried, MediaAttach linked attachments to a TOPIC and not to a POST. So if multiple people post attachments in the same topic, they are all displayed bunched up at the bottom. Not only does this look ugly, it's pretty bad for usability (try figuring out which attachment belongs to which user/post!).
  
  Is this still the case? I flagged this before but there seemed no interest in fixing this basic problem.
  
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• marsu
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 19, 2010 - 08:17 PM

  Just wanted to add that the feature request in Cozi has been marked "Nice to have" for 1.2
  
  http://code.zikula.org/mediaattach/ticket/114
  
  In my humble opinion, this is a very basic feature that would make Diskus a lot more usable for non-tech forums (where you typically don't need attachments).
  
  Currently running a PNphpBB2 forum with 160K posts, and the attachment issue is stopping me from switching to Dizkus
  
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  Posted: Jan 19, 2010 - 08:25 PM

  marsu

  Last time I tried, MediaAttach linked attachments to a TOPIC and not to a POST.

  
  This is the problem of Dizkus. There should be an option whether hooks are called per topic and/or per post.
  MediaAttach can work fine with Dizkus in general and it *can* also be used per post.
  
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• pnFilip
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 19, 2010 - 10:02 PM

  OK you are right. It seems that the Dizkus guys are aware of that. The title of the ticket wasn't enough clear to me.
  http://code.zikula.org/dizkus/ticket/158
  Thanks,
  Philippe

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• mesteele101
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2010 - 02:58 AM

  Is there an running example of this somewhere that we can look at? What bothers me is "MediaAttach can work fine with Dizkus in general". I think there are enough of these programs that hook into Zikula that work in "General".
  

  marsu

  Currently running a PNphpBB2 forum with 160K posts, and the attachment issue is stopping me from switching to Dizkus
  
  Stefaan

  
  My data is smaller then yours and at 160k posts you might reconsider upgrading to Dizkus, at least until there is a reliable conversion script that will take PNphpBB2 data and fully convert it to Dizkus, which there is none right now. For me the attachment issue is not the problem, it's the data conversion.

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• marsu
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2010 - 07:57 PM

  Guite

  marsu

  Last time I tried, MediaAttach linked attachments to a TOPIC and not to a POST.

  
  This is the problem of Dizkus. There should be an option whether hooks are called per topic and/or per post.
  MediaAttach can work fine with Dizkus in general and it *can* also be used per post.

  
  
  You are right of course, this is a problem of Dizkus. I was a bit careless in my reply - apologies.
  
  Stefaan

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