Hi everybody!
I more or less finished the relaunch of kaffeeringe.de. There were 2 reasons for this: .8 is almost ready and I needed a more professional homepage to present my work as web developer and consultant. The new site is a good basis for this as there is much more room for portfolio and stuff.
There were several problems: The old site was a 10 times updated site - I think 723 was the first version I installed on that URL. In the meantime obviously some steps in the update didn't work so that the backend only half worked. Moreover I assembled a module museum over time and I had to get rid of them altogether.
So I made a backup and installed .8 in a subdirectory. Then I copied over one module after another: Pagesetter, Mediashare, EZComments - every module was also one version behind but they all also installed under .8 - once each was installed I exported structure and data from the old DB and imported them into the new. Then I downloaded the latest module version an updated. - worked really great.
Only the Blogroll module didn't install and trackback doesn't work with path-based urls.
The layout is based on YUI CSS Grids.
The Twitter and LastFM blocks are based on my XMLtoTemplate plugins.
Anything else? Please ask! Comment! Critizise! Praise!
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That gives hope to the people that need to upgrade to 0.8
and the site looks nice, clean and good use of columns for the different areas. Congrats.
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While you should have tested your updates for the the last 2 years I would like to summarize so points:
1. 3rd Party modules are not affected by the upgrade. There are some small exceptions: super old modules that don't use API functions for accessing user data won't work properly. And if the module uses the Topics module (like Pagesetter, Mediashare) you should install the Topics module.
2. Some of the old core module have 3rd party successors: Downloads, pnMessages ASO. You can already update these module now. Then you won't have to do that later.
3. The remaining core modules have been taken care of by Mark and Mateo for upgradeability.
So modules - if not too old - should be not much of a problem.
4. Themes: AFAIK the themes upgrade from .7 Xanthia themes to .8 Themes works pretty fine. If you still have a "classic theme" it's about time to have a new design
If you want to keep your layout you can follow this tutorial to turn the output of your site into a new theme. I don't know much about AutoTheme - is a .8 version available? Else the same applies to you...
I think only people with heavy customization of the original code run into problems - but they should also have the means to upgrade anyway.
And think of all the great modules on the .8 side of the fence: Pagemaster, Content, ContactList ASO.
And keep in mind: If you don't have time for it: Never run a changing system
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Very nice Steffen - I've got several new projects I'm starting and upgrading to Zikula 1.0 :). That will be robust, membership sites, so I'm looking forward to all the challenges. But after setting up a test site and starting to move over some of the data I'm pleased, although I do hate change. I also found it simple to upgrade the Xanthia 2.0 themes to 3.0.
Again, congrats on the new site and thanks for sharing.
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nice work, you blog is far better than the classical wordpress or dotclear (the links at the bottom of the article are a one-to-may relationsip with a link object, no ?, if yes that a good example of the Pagesetter flexibility)
the tagcloud is your work, or did you add a special Pagesetter plugin ?
Yui CSS seems pretty interesting, if we look at your page without CSS, all the content is displayed first, and then the link, i knew some others sites, but not this one, will look at it
which template did you use ?
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/grids/
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i don't agree , old modules use old API function and each time this functions are used, a log entry is created (this generate large amount of log), if this functions are called multiples times, you can have a lack in performance). But i agree ,old module are still compatible (Pagesetter in particular)
is this the bases of your blog distribution ?
will you add an "archive part" like in classical blog ?
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i don't agree , old modules use old API function and each time this functions are used, a log entry is created (this generate large amount of log
This shouldn't be the case in Zikula 1.0 final - logging of this kind is a developer mode function.
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ok i think i ve done a bad update on the SVN, thanks
EDIT : ok , log are not enabled on Z.1
$PNConfig['Log']['log_enabled'] is set to 0 in config.php
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Thank you Mumuri!
The linked articles are a simple inline list with the next 3 articles of a topic. See it slightly modified at www.kiel4kiel.de
The TagCloud is my own work yes. But as it's still topics-based I guess it will be out-dated soon + it's not very fast :-S
I used the YUI-Builder to create the grid. Very simple.
This is at least the site that got me the idea of a blogging solution. But I am not 100% sure what really the best module for a blog is. News is very easy to use. Pagesetter is very flexible but Pagemaster is set to take over... Or do I develop something myself? Modulestudio makes it all so easy.
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the problem with the news module ,is that you distrib will look like any other blog (even if its modular)
with Pagesetter, you give them a way to customize the struture of their article, this way, you can create a "pro" version blog system destinated to specialist of a given thematics. Notes that a pagemaster can be upgrade from a Pagesetter.
for modulestudio, that could be a way, but i thinks it will take you lot of time and effort to developp a full blogging system.
i think you ve made the good choice for your blog at least
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Content rocks for sure. But the problem is that we - the Content developer team - decided not to expand Content's listing features. Content aims solely at classic pages. So it will not be possible to really use Content for News.
Moreover IMHO Content with all its layout features is overkill for blogging. Blogging should be simple. Which includes not too many features. Maybe that is a philosophic question but IMHO usually you blog when you stumble across something that you want to comment. So it should be possible to include a video, an image and Link or a Quote and comment that. No "align left" "Caption" ASO...
The more I write the more I com to the conclusion it may be better to write my own solution. But that doesn't mean that a blogging solution doesn't support the content API - Every module can implement that API and fetch the same content items from other modules...
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