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• Technobilder
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 19, 2008 - 03:18 AM

  I only want a calendar module ...

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• dks
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 19, 2008 - 06:57 AM

  kaffeeringe.de

  We just published a call for volunteer and only few people answered. Is there anything for you on the list?

  
  
  I wouldn't be discouraged over a lack of response.
  I have some experience in writing user manuals for "non-technical" people but can only promise to do my best with the time that I have. I've been writing some tutorials as time permit aimed at n00bs and plan to publish them shortly after the next full release.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2008 - 02:54 PM

  AmmoDump

  http://dpahl.com/index.php?theme=Fleximple like that? that was 2 mins of work... I am sure it may have a few bugs.. .8 provides a theme upgrader, it is far from perfect, but it does the brunt of the work.
  
  Again, expect to see distributions with extensive theme packs... I think the included theme are pretty basic. I wouldn't use them.
  
  As far as language packs are concerned you drop an email to: David Nelson (david.on.the.web) at gmail.

  
  
  ok, nice that it works for you :) - i tried to convert it, ending up with endless error codes. but anyway, that wasnt even the point i tried to make regarding themes. i am sure in the end everybody will find one that fits his needs. my point was the "idiot proof" (well nearly) and WORKING palettes, column settings etc. you know - nice for sb running PN the very first time and be able to change some stuff around, getting a "individual" skin without even start to search and install new themes.
  
  i didnt try to land critic points in general you know, just views from the userend, it sometimes gets lost with the programming "geeks" :)
  like what seems like a minor, not mentionsworthy glitch can ruin my day or week to research a solution LOL.
  
  anyway, no puns intended, i will actually check with david about ways to help with language packs and will be happy to contribute where i can.
  
  keep up the good work, mac
  
  ps:
  

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• AmmoDump
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2008 - 03:14 PM

  Well, I would say I am a end-user more than a programmer. Granted, I am far from a first time user. I understand the software pretty well, no doubt. I do work on the PN team, but not as a programmer.
  
  Really, you can expect to find distributions with much more themes than the core ones. The core only is not really going to be intended for the first time user, but for the advanced user.
  
  I wrote an article about distributions, yesterday: http://community.postnuke.com/Article2885.htm
  
  Anyway, if you like I would be glad to share the fleximple theme with you for .8. It did have a few obvious errors after conversion, but they were simple (for me) to fix. It needs some polish, but it seems usable, as I have not tested it much or even looked very far into the actual design. Let me know. If you want, I can even help you work to what you think is a useable flexible first time theme, and I will share that input.
  
  Thanks,
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2008 - 07:40 PM

  AmmoDump

  Well, I would say I am a end-user more than a programmer. Granted, I am far from a first time user. I understand the software pretty well, no doubt. I do work on the PN team, but not as a programmer.
  
  Really, you can expect to find distributions with much more themes than the core ones. The core only is not really going to be intended for the first time user, but for the advanced user.
  
  I wrote an article about distributions, yesterday: http://community.postnuke.com/Article2885.htm
  
  Anyway, if you like I would be glad to share the fleximple theme with you for .8. It did have a few obvious errors after conversion, but they were simple (for me) to fix. It needs some polish, but it seems usable, as I have not tested it much or even looked very far into the actual design. Let me know. If you want, I can even help you work to what you think is a useable flexible first time theme, and I will share that input.
  
  Thanks,

  
  
  hi david,
  
  i wouldnt mind to have a working version of fleximple for .8, just to keep playing with the old theme of one of our sites.
  
  i just got to mention this particular theme because it seemed extremely easy to modify when i first started to use PN and couldnt find anything to my likings (at the time i had not even a clue what a stylesheet is). the designer (joerg encke, www.encke.net ) was very helpful helping to fix hiccups in the .76 version. so i could imagine he could be convinced to update and debug it for .8 if approached (do NOT quote me on it - i am just guessing based on personal experience, i dont know him in any way to say he would).
  
  PN won me over from phpnuke due to much better safety, sleeker design, more streamlined and easy to use extentions in general. i think all that is still true. little probs (and often big ones) you find with all CMS - open source or commercial.
  
  i understand also that .8 is still RC2 at this point and not perfect. i generally like what i see. some things need getting used to (like the categories). i dont think it needs theme packed releases at all. it needs a handful basic themes that are easy to modify for starters and to play around. most people will find a theme to their likings later or even make one / get one made for their needs later. the themes preloaded at the moment would make me thinking twice if i made the rite choice CMS as soon as i first enter the site after install (no pun intended).
  
  the next thing i mentioned before, the more flexible startpage would be nice (once again i dont try to b*tch, just offer some ideas for maybe even .9). you know something like i have left and right blocks (or just left / right) and can easily use the center area to set up sth like "teaser" blocks to other areas. some 3rd party modules offer this option to a degree. easy implementation would be nice. like a easy to use module that allows for something like i have full width center block, a split center left and right area etc. i think i saw sth like it before (might not have been for PN but another CMS - really not sure). it would allow for more individual designed websites. at the moment it is very easy to identify most CMS vs. HTML websites at first glance.
  
  in my experience 3rd party modules and blocks are usually well done and mostly easy to integrate compared to other CMS. nice job, wide variety if you search for stuff. it seemed to be more lively with new developments and updates for modules some time ago, but lately things appear to pick up again with new devs and skilled ppl adopting some of the older, abandoned modules to update them - beautiful.
  
  i think one of the big weaknesses is a well written documentation for the core PN and modules. the Wiki is a good idea and offers basics in many areas, others are just staring back at you blank!!! i realize it takes time to create, BUTTTTTTT, you know sth for the core with screenshots and explained in easy newbie terms would help many ppl i think (thats one i dont really require for once, but i have heard from ppl i suggested PN to often).
  on the other hand, the community is usually extremely helpful in the forums here and on some other sites. so if you need help and know where to look you get it :o).
  it just might be a good idea to pep up before looking into "branding, corp id., marketing etc." (as seen suggested in other parts of the forum) to deeply.
  
  PN offers a lot, i surely just scratched the surface at this point exploring all the options. even more so with .8!
  i looked into other CMS (like xoops, mambo) as well in the meantime, but decided to stick with PN due to more variety in modules useful to me etc. i hope that the marketing threads are not the indicator for the next big effort with PN.
  it would be like, gates introduces vista beta1 for (what is it this days :)?)U$ 125 plus to the world claiming the future of (nonworking) computing.
  
  i can see marketing, money being made (with commercial users) to cover cost, be able to finance servers etc for whats now the NOC thingy....
  
  first should be to create the best, most versatile CMS around, well documented, breathtaking by first looks, self-adjusting to users needs (due to the above mentioned pnmind module). while doing all that effortless consider demands as above (I only want a calendar module ...) and all is groovy ;o)
  
  lol, that was way more than i intended to write. and it went off into more stuff as well.
  
  anyway, no complaints - only wishes / suggestions for future releases
  mac

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• kaffeeringe.de
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2008 - 10:43 PM

  @tekmac: The Wiki is open to everyone - and if you see a Blank Page, it's up to you to add what you know about that topic. It doesn't have to be perfect or in any way complete. Only a begining.
  
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  best regards from Kiel, sailing city
  
  Steffen Voss
  
  Member of the Zikula Steering Committee
  Read The Zikulan's Blog "If you want people to RTFM, make a better FM!"

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• Simon
  
  

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  Posted: Jan 20, 2008 - 10:47 PM

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  so i could imagine he could be convinced to update and debug it for .8 if approached

  
  
  There's the auto conversion in postnuke anyway - any .76x theme can be automatically upgraded to .8.
  
  

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  like a easy to use module that allows for something like i have full width center block, a split center left and right area etc

  
  Eventually you'll be able to use the COntent module for this. IN the meantime, you can add unlimited extra block positions to your theme fairly easily.
  
  

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  i think one of the big weaknesses is a well written documentation for the core PN and modules. the Wiki is a good idea and offers basics in many areas, others are just staring back at you blank!!!

  
  The documentation project is in-progress to create a new manual for .8.
  
  

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  you know sth for the core with screenshots and explained in easy newbie terms would help many ppl i think

  
  I am in the process of finishing off a first time tour module that can come preinstalled with distributions to explain what PostNuke is about.
  
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