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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 02, 2007 - 10:43 PM

  ... so I'd like to get in touch with other users of this modules. I know there's no current developer team behind, but my programming skills does not yet extend to developing modules - only hacking others to my needs.
  
  I want to have 4 random items on the frontpage of the shop, but they have to be random from within each of the four categories. And that I can't figure out how to do.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 01:20 AM

  Doesn't anybody use pncommerce anymore?

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• Topiatic
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 01:44 AM

  Sadly it's been dying a slow death for quite some time. I know people hack it for thier own purposes but the code is in such a state of transition that hacks are just that... hacks. And the likelyhood fof pnCommerce playing nicely with pn8 is slim.
  
  I saw a link around here recently to a project that is currently beta that should, from the sounds of it, replace the fullness and functionality of pnCommerce, it's related to the broCRM project in the NOC.
  
  Might be better to spend time pushing that along rather than trying to sort out a large amount of unsupported code.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 02:42 AM

  This is so sad, as I finally managed to get it to work the way I wanted it to!
  
  And even more sad, as I think this i a good module - the best webshop integration I've seen so far. The use of templating is much easier than in OsCommerce, and it supports Smarty and pnRender as well...
  
  Transofrming it into a PN8 compliant module is way out of my league, I just wish somebody would do it...

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 02:50 AM

  I've been looking at broCRM. They do have a broB2B but it seems like this one is turned into something else. It's hard to find anything about it and to me it looks like it has turned into a commercial product - pay or leave!
  So there goes the alternative solution...

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• kaffeeringe.de
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 05:41 AM

  There are people using pnCommerce and they also hack it here and there, but they don't cooperate and they don't publish
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 11:42 AM

  I used the workflow on pagesetter.net... I works now, but I would never do it again. True, it's the best solution so far, if your client doesn't demand too much... but there's the problem, once it actually works, they start asking for more...
  Hacking pnCommerce is one thing, but keep it secure is another. If anyone is asking me again for a 'simple shopmanager' I'd think twice.
  
  Otherwise, some people will have to adopt the module and try to make the best of it...
  
  - Igor

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 06, 2007 - 02:17 AM

  The code seem to be well documented though. Lots of comments and the API descirbtion for .99 (I wonder wherever that version is...).
  The ability to use other means of payment than Paypal lifts it aabove the rest, and the templating really makes it a LOT more flexible better than OsCommerce. It took me not long to make a new frontpage with some randomly chosen items.
  Maybe I should start to take a look at the code and see if can get any wiser as to how to make it better and more secure.
  The OsC solution with the modules/plugins seems to be the way to go: Make the core modules workable and then let others do the plugins for payments, posting and so on.
  I haven't tried PayPalCart, 'cause I have no use for PayPal as payment.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 18, 2007 - 11:33 PM

  kaffeeringe, I've been watching the german PN-site and it seems to me that there's something happening there regarding pnCommerce. But my german isn't good enough to fully understand the 'pro et contra' that's going on there.
  So my question is: Is there right now chance that a new team will take over the development of pnCommerce - or am I better off if I start looking for another solution to the shop problem?

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• ccandreva
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 20, 2007 - 02:51 PM

  Can you provide a link to the page you saw this on ? Maybe babelfish.altavista.com or Google translation can make it understandable.
  

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 21, 2007 - 07:44 AM

  http://support.pn-cm…-25347-start-30.htm - cant remember if you have to register.
  But it's the main german postnuke site.

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• ccandreva
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 05:34 AM

  The translation seemed to say to me that nothing was going on, sorry.
  
  Unfortunately a PayPal only cart is far to limited for any of my clients who would want this. I just tried the latest pnShoppingCart CVS, and the admin menus don't come up at all.
  
  I had tried pnCommerce a year or so ago, and it seemed fairly robust, needing some tweaking. I wonder why the pnShoppingCart folks decided to start from scratch rather than work on pnCommerce.
  

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• ccandreva
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 12:45 PM

  The good news is, I just did a quick install of the current CVS pncommerce in my PN 8.0 and it seems to work just fine.
  
  I'm willing to adopt pnCommerce, at least to get the current CVS out as a release and fix outstanding bugs.
  

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 07:57 PM

  That's good news indeed!
  I'm in no hurry, as I in the situation mentioned earlier gave up and used OsCemmerce instead - but I would like to see an integrated shop for PN as an option; one login, Smarty templates, multihooks and all that.

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• bp
  
  

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  Posted: Apr 29, 2007 - 06:02 AM

  Hi everybody,
  
  we are actively using pncommerce for local customers here in Japan and the module is not in such a bad stage although there are some aspects I'd like to improve.
  Having said that the module does have problems with the new PN .8 version. The problem relates to the fact that in .8 'type' names in the URL strings must not contain the string 'API' anymore.
  I actually posted a workaround (well, a hack) some weeks ago in one of these forums but the better solution would be to rework the module.
  About 2 years ago I had make lot's of corrections and I also offered the modified code to the (still) developers back in Germany. Sadly, they had big ideas about a new module but it seems that it never materialized.
  
  Regards,
  Bernd

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