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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 03:02 AM

  Yes, craigh is right. Mambo has a foundation without developers, we have a foundation that has developers even in the highes comitee. (Mark and Andreas)

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• larsneo
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 03:28 AM

  TMoS

  and how many developers we now have?
  i mean active contributors?

  
  although not really representative (since there are a lot more contributors through the patch section) the cvs activity log gives a brief overview: http://cvsnotices.postnuke.com/
  
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• Lobos
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 06:33 AM

  larsneo

  TMoS

  and how many developers we now have?
  i mean active contributors?

  
  although not really representative (since there are a lot more contributors through the patch section) the cvs activity log gives a brief overview: http://cvsnotices.postnuke.com/

  
  
  Mark seems to do the work of 10 men in this undertaking!
  
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• markwest
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 06:35 AM

  Lobos

  Mark seems to do the work of 10 men in this undertaking!

  
  
  It keeps me off the streets.... ;) But in all seriousness, and like larsneo has pointed out already, there are a good number of those commits that are patches provided other people and i'm just the person making the cvs commit.
  
  The patch tracker is a significant part of postnuke development - a place where anyone can make a contribution to the development process. All patches are reviewed for inclusion.
  
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• TMoS
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 11:32 AM

  larsneo

  TMoS

  and how many developers we now have?
  i mean active contributors?

  
  although not really representative (since there are a lot more contributors through the patch section) the cvs activity log gives a brief overview: http://cvsnotices.postnuke.com/

  
  
  thanks for this link
  
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• MACscr
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 11:38 AM

  Patches are good and all, but i miss the days where were 25 plus developers working on the development side of things, not just squashing bugs. I do agree that our code is a lot better than it used to be, but i think thats also mostly because were getting closer to being phpnuke free and the project has matured. There are really only 5 active developers as VWorld and Drak really have nothing to do with that side of things and Harry Zink is rarely ever around. What happened to Phpnut BTW?

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• Landseer
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 20, 2005 - 07:03 PM

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  Patches are good and all, but i miss the days where were 25 plus developers working on the development side of things, not just squashing bugs.

  
  
  You are talking about the days when the CVS was broken every day due too many contradictary commits? Right now the number of devs with write acces to the CVS is indeed very restricted just to avoid this.
  
  In addition it does not make sense to commit every single change if it needs to be seen in a bigger context, e.g. the error handling I am working on at the moment is very complex, intermediate commits will surely result in a broken repository. The same is valid for Mark's new installer for .8.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 04:44 AM

  Just a quick congratulations on your new direction. Definitely a step in the right direction and a sign of VERY good things to come in the future.I'm not a hacker myself. I'm a writer but I most definitely appreciate all the efforts of the Postnuke community. I switched to Postnuke a year ago from the other guy LOL and I have no regrets about that decision. Postnuke is the best CMS for non-hackers and I think this new direction will ensure that it remains so for a long time to come.

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• Topiatic
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 03:40 PM

  Victorbaldes

  -hello, i have mates who do PN, can i show you something? :) -

  
  
  LMAO
  
  I think the PNSC is a great idea, I have always found postnuke to be WAY to "all over the place". An umbrella group will hopefully give us better access to the full international aspect of what postnuke really is, as well as giving us a "foundation" upon which to place our pnSoapBox's.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 12:23 AM

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  MAcsc wrote: 25 plus developers working on the development side of things

  
  

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  Landseer wrote:
  the CVS was broken every day due too many contradictary commits

  
  
  
  
  This is the organizing point..
  

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  a place where anyone can make a contribution to the development process

  
  
  I just wonder if the cvsnotices could be shown in advance, a tasks list in the roadmap planning, so someone could have an idea of the things to be done and can offer him/herself to be the cvscommiter assistant.. if the task/timing suits him/her.
  Timing don't mean harass, just for ex .. profile work to start 'around' november(or 2 months after the 760..) , task asigned to ... . Project needs 'around' 40 CSS hours, 3 testers,..
  There are sure core tasks and core feature requests at NOC which then could be quoted/send requester to volunteer in the created core task..
  25 or 1000x people, if there's (alot) of specific pointed work to be done, better for all..
  sometimes people want to contribute to core and they just can't find how ..
  
  mark, it's first time i hear of the public patch tracker, where is it? is it a second name for the cvsnotices?
  
  as an advanced suggestion for all this, i like do.postnuke.com
  
  

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  LMAO

  
  
  what is this software? :) I think there's also need of a forum abreviations Dictionary. I am seriously thinking of collecting them and post a reply in some forum guidelines ;)
  
  PNSF and PNSC .. both are the same, this is dynamism :)

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• Topiatic
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 03:30 AM

  LMAO = Laughing My A** Off :D
  
  PNSC I used for PostNuke Steering Commitee, I guess Software Foundation would have been more accurate.
  
  There are published lists of internet chat shorthand/anagrams, but I don't have them bookmarked maybe someone else can provide a link.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 03:37 AM

  i thought you meant PNS Corporation LMAO :)
  Yes, we'll do a list ... they are quite helpful and a bit confusing for newbies..

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• mikelawson
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 08:42 PM

  If this helps bring further solidity to this great CMS, I think you're doing the right thing. Foundations, dealing with a board, these things are work, but common interest can surely take it a long way. Pleased to see the release of .760, and when I get the nerve, I'll mess with it. :)
  
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• kaffeeringe.de
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 24, 2005 - 12:51 AM

  MACscr

  Patches are good and all, but i miss the days where were 25 plus developers working on the development side of things, not just squashing bugs. I do agree that our code is a lot better than it used to be, but i think thats also mostly because were getting closer to being phpnuke free and the project has matured.

  
  It will be easier the distribute task when we moved the content modules to single noc-projects. People will asked to apply for their maintainance. So if someone is willing to develope the news module he can become project member of the new module and work on it without being able to unwillingly break something within the core.
  
  The core will stay in the hands of a few selected developers. If you want to have something included, post a patch and an explaination, why this should be added. The core devs will review and eventually include it.
  
  If someone proves to be a constant and able submitter, he/she can always receive commit permissions.
  
  But please be patient - after the release of 0.760 and our change of focus towards 0.8 and the foundation / steering committee thing we will have to take some time to sort things out, before everything runs as smoothly as wanted.
  
  

  MACscr

  What happened to Phpnut BTW?

  
  He's on a project called "Cake" now.
  
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