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• Slugger
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 05:53 AM

  The recent, though not unexpected, announcement that pnTresMailer is running on fumes made me think of other PostNuke projects that are dead, dying, or dormant.
  
  In addition to TresMailer, ones that come immediately to my mind are PostCalendar, Calzone (I guess it's now called PostSchedule), pnOpenRealty, YellowPHP, pnCommerce (aka PostKart), pnESP, x-user, pnContact, pnAmazon, Seminars, and of course, the often talked about but never released, OSCommerce bridge.
  
  What comes to mind for you?
  
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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 06:09 AM

  I've been getting CVS notices on PostCalendar, so it's not dead, just not as rapidly developed as some would like Larsneo got it patched so that it will work with 750 for now.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 07:17 AM

  The OSCommerce bridge doesnt work?
  
  What solutions are available then?
  
  I guess I took this for granted.

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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 07:26 AM

  Not so much that it doesn't work but that it never came to be.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 07:27 AM

  NukeOwl is a project that had a lot of promise but seemed to one day just die due to lack of dev acknowledgement.
  
  The talked about port of pnClansite to pnGuildsite, encompassing many different MMORPGs was very exciting, but it's died on the vine too. Since PN attracts a lot of hobbyists due to it's ease of setup, a mod like this is constantly asked for.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 09:57 AM

  Slugger

  .. the often talked about but never released, OSCommerce bridge.

  
  That's my personal favorite. Things are often announced when produced & available.. there seems to be this anomoly attached to this mysterious bridge, where it is consistently announced before it's even started or complete.
  
  ..anyway, I just thought I would take a moment to announce that I will be releasing my own magical bridge.. one that connects PostNuke to the septum of a disgruntled rabbit. The purpose of this bridge is to leverage the entities, enabling a swift and clean removal of rabbit from hat. Joy will be had by all. Stay tuned: it's coming very, very, very, very soon.

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• markwest
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 10:08 AM

  The bottom line with this is that more people need to stand up and be counted as developers. Learning PHP isn't hard if you have a little time and the inclination - this is why it's such a popular language. But it seems that for many as soon as it's suggested that a person creates a patch, develops a new feature or takes on the development of the module that the module no longer seems as important as it did previously.
  
  Now I know this is a big generalisation and isn't the case of many who contribute to PN in many ways; be it development (modules, blocks & themes), support, hosting etc. but......
  
  If there's a module that you make use of that isn't currently being developed - take it on; give something back the postnuke community from which you've gained so much.
  
  I've heard the phase 'but i'm not a coder' on many occasions - none of us are born coders, it's a skill we've learnt mostly all self taught. This I believe to be people creating artificial limitations on thier own ability. Anyone can achieve anything if they put thier mind to it.
  
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• HalbrookTech
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 10:10 AM

  Or consider paying someone to do it. pnGroups, pnFirstVisit and the forthcomming pnSerialTracker wouldn't exist if someone hadn't paid me do write them. PrayerPost, it would, cuz I wrote it for me, but the others, wouldn't.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 10:39 AM

  ..if I were a wealthy man: I'd sit and code for the better half of every day.. I've been screwed out of a lot of my "free" time in the last 7-8 months and I sincerely miss the long sessions.. BBEdit, caffeine and cigarettes..Mmmm. I daydream about running off to my shack in the Andes and my high speed jungle/cable access.. ho-hum.. I love it.. the code that is.. I've really been considering buying a new laptop to be able to code at work.. since I don't do much of anything else here really.. hahaha.. (just kidding boss: It's HARD WORK)..
  
  Mark's right to a degree; but he's like the the pusher on the street "Just try it.. you'll like it." hahaha.. then you're hooked.. start making excuses to your family why you've not been around, calling in sick at work to stay home and code, telling the wife and/or girlfriend that it's "very important work" and you're "almost done" hahahha.. we've seen it all before.

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• Simon
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 10:50 AM

  I'm learning - slowly ;)
  
  May even release a 'module' that is really only a few functions in an admin interface soon.
  
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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 12:14 PM

  I like to think I'm working my way up the ladder, one rung at a time. I've released a couple of themes, plan to release at least two or three more in the next month or so. Once I have that under my belt, I plan to find a fairly simple block to create or update... just to get my feet wet. I hope to be making full-fledged modules by the end of next year.
  
  So far, I've found that I can learn alot just by trial and error on a test site. Open up an existing module and try to make it different. I don't have any PHP books or anything... I use the forums here and I Google quite often. It's amazing how much I've learned in a few short months, and I knew NOTHING about PHP... in fact, my HTML knowledge was pretty limited too.
  
  I aspire to become an awesome coder like many of the fine folks here on this website. The more I learn, the more I appreciate those that are already good at it. :)

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 01:30 PM

  If the PN team wants more people to participate in development, then they need to do more to encourage participation. (I know that the usual flame-throwers are already seeing red, but let's keep this positive.)
  
  The PN team can't just expect folks to dive right in. Those types of folks (I count myself among them) are very rare. To encourage more participation in development, it has to be easier to get involved and easier to get help. I'm not trying to knock the existing team or setup but just to point out that there has to be some higher level of activity in encouraging participation.
  
  By the way, I actively encourage help with my modules... Right now, someone is hacking on the statistics module to make consolidation work correctly (or at least the way he wants it. :D ) . And I've included other contributions as well.
  
  Furthermore, I have a new module for displaying rss feeds in blocks as well as hosting rss viewers for other web sites. It should be enough of an improvement over the existing blocks (and the new one in PN 8 ) that I'll suggest to the PN team to adopt it.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 01:31 PM

  Perhaps the way to look at this would be from the viewpoint of a good testimate to the concept of Open Source methods. For those developers who find no time left to continue their work, others can pick up and continue the products life because the code is there with the software. For something like a PostNuke module, that task is made all the more easier by having a set of standards and conventions that if followed can mean the continuation of the module by an infinate number of programmers on down the line.
  
  No, I haven't produced my first module yet, actually just beginning to get started between creating articles related to PostNuke on my site. I do plan to keep working away at it though :)

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 01:51 PM

  ..another thing seems to be "credibility".. people prefer to start and maintain their own ideas.. adoption is less fulfilling; being the "maintainer" of someone else's work.

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• **unknown user**
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 23, 2004 - 02:21 PM

  I certainly won't argue against that point as I know that is true to an extent for sure. It's all personal preference. Some won't want to use the work of another, some find nothing wrong it picking up the work, continuing it, and as they do mold and shape it more to their own style and techique.

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