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• Simon
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 20, 2004 - 01:04 AM

  Well, as of last night I installed suse linux onto my free partition - works well, have the network working and internet access...
  
  Now for PHP, MySQL and Apache...
  
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• Lobos
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 20, 2004 - 12:48 PM

  Well I am downloading this as well, Hammer - I suspect it will take most of the night for me also :)
  
  When I bought my new laptop I decided to partition the drives before doing anything else so I now have around 4 partitions - 2 at 20gig and 2 at 10 gig. I have put some stuff on each of these drives so is it ok to wipe the partition I want to use to install suse and go ahead with the install? Is there anything else I should do in preparation? Should I use the 10 gig partition or the 20 gig?
  
  Thanks :)
  
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• Simon
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 20, 2004 - 09:05 PM

  Make sure you know which drive is which, and which partition you want to overwrite - I had a problem in that both of my hard drives were Western Digital, and you couldn't tell the difference between the two (identical partitioning, etc). I had to take a guess as to which drive had Windows, and the working data, and which was the backup drive I no longer use.
  
  I used a 10 gig partition - the install process indicated linux was about 1.32 gigs, so I can't see a problem with space yet.
  
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• r3ap3r
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 25, 2004 - 11:58 AM

  I used to use Mandrake exclusively, but in my opinion they have been going down hill. I have tried SuSe and like it ok too, but I finally decided to scrap them all for Gentoo. If you are on a slow computer and you want KDE or Gnome then Gentoo is NOT for you. If all you are looking for is a headless server and the computer is relatively slow then it won't be a problem because most of the server stuff compiles relatively quickly. KDE takes 12+ hours to compile on my 3.0 Ghz P4 with HT and 1GB of ram.
  
  I use FreeBSD on some of my systems too. I have used 4.9 and 5.2.1 on my laptop. Both ran pretty good, but I had some problems that stem from the FreeBSD folks making the desktop a low priority. The FreeBSD ports system is nice, but Gentoo's Portage is better.
  
  If you are looking to learn Linux from scratch and just want an easy Windows replacement then go with Mandrake or SuSe. If you really want to learn how the system works then go with Slackware or Gentoo. I started with Slackware in 1996 and installed it on my old 486 laptop. It took hours and required a book to explain the whole process, but things have come a long way. I can install and configure a Mandrake or SuSe box a lot faster than I can install and configure a Windows XP box.
  
  My personal favorite for Linux is Gentoo. But the best system layout has to go to FreeBSD, if only it worked better on my laptop.
  
  Things to keep in mind with FreeBSD though. If you want to run vmware then you need Linux. FreeBSD won't run vmware. If you want to run Cedega (specialized Wine for Gaming) http://www.transgaming.com/ then you need Linux too.
  
  As far as security goes either Linux or FreeBSD is only as secure as you make it. They can both be configured to be equally secure (or not) depending on how you configure them.
  
  Either one is worth the switch from Windows though. Say goodbye to Outlook virus hell.
  
  Good luck.
  -Chris

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• r3ap3r
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 25, 2004 - 12:12 PM

  You can install everything that Mandrake or SuSe has on their disks in about 5 GB of space. (Obviously less if you choose to not install everything). So it depends mostly on how many other files you are going to be storing on your system whether you want to use the 10 or 20 gig. Keep in mind that Linux can write to a Fat32 drive just fine. So if you keep a Fat32 partition available you can put any files that you want to be able to access from both Windows and Linux on that partition. You could use the 10 GB which would give you plenty of space for the operating system and anything you wanted to install, and then use the 20 GB for a Fat32 partition to share data between the 2.
  
  Another thing to be careful of when using Mandrake. Version 10.0 installs the bootsplash program by default which sets an environment variable 'THEME' to be 'Mandrake' which causes PostNuke to not work unless your PostNuke theme is called 'Mandrake'. So make sure if you use a text based boot loader with Mandrake rather than a graphic boot loader unless you want to dig into config files to fix the problem. Search the forums and you can find where I posted a solution to the problem. If you are using SuSe though it isn't a problem.
  
  -Chris

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• bravecobra
  
  

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  Posted: Nov 25, 2004 - 02:30 PM

  Call me Linux freak, but I definitely choose Gentoo for a very good reason, I believe. It´s highly configurable! However without the proper knowlegde, there is no way of getting a Linux noob to install Gentoo (build your own kernel etc....). This distro is mainly aimed at the Linux die-hards.
  My server runs on Gentoo and I noticed the problems when I wanted to have something like plesk on it. It´s possible but hard. I decided to configure ´everything´ by hand.
  If you are a Linux noob, then go for RedHat Fedora. This distro is also maintained by a community, not a company and that really makes a difference I noticed over the years.
  However no matter what Linux distro you choose, all of them are better than Windows. Just give me one reason to change back! I dare you! :D :twisted: :D (Hold the flamwares!)
  Hope this helps.

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