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It's amazing to me how
vocal, almost to the point of being abusive to others here, a very small few are that are in favor of this commercialization of postnuke, as has been seen in this thread, the last poll, and many other news items threads across the sites. But it's only a few people doing this bashing. Why?
These people you are bashing are your best advertisement!
These people you guys are bashing, members of the community and ALL those others that read this tit for tat crap going on will remember how you reacted long after the smoke has cleared.
Word of mouth advertising is far better than any top billing on themes.postnuke.com
Why isn't those that are against this speaking out?
IMHO, it's because of this aggressive behavior by those few who DO want this to happen.
Now I've got a few friends in these threads that I respect 100% but in this discussion I completely disagree with their comments and responses to others. A few excepts to make my point if I may...
......PostNuke hasn't been in my top 20 referers for a while now....
This may be true Shawn, but I respectfully doubt that.
...Why do I feel like the loser, why should I bother to help a community that doesn't help me?
You didn't start out to help the community I'm sure. You started out like all of us, having fun with some free software called postnuke. You enjoyed what you were doing and went into business. Great. Giving back to this community some of your work for free, as Shawn and others have been doing for many years is a commendable thing surely, but this comment by you above is just plain nuts.
You are in business, get to it guys. Word of mouth advertising and your own paid advertising at other venues is how you're going to get ahead.
Contributing to this community and others, getting your name (and product) out there is how you'll succeed.
But you're apparently fighting for a spot on the front page of a community website called postnuke that's been built by hundreds of users who came before you and gave their time for
free over the years, for the sake of what? Beer money?
Lobos this community has surely helped you, and me and countless 1000's of others many times in many ways over the years. The more you put into it, the more you will get back, this was the great thing about postnuke at one time. But this doesn't have to be the case. You are not being forced to make those themes. You could always go back to your day job.
The best products need no advertising. They sell themselves.
..Seems to me most of community don't care a bit about this
Most of the community these days are
new users who just want to get a site up,
IMHO. They could care less about the politics of getting sales leads from the hits front page advertising at postnuke may or may not bring them.
Of course, like many in these threads know quite well, those leads can be substantial.
Postnuke is a world wide community and has always for the most part, been an open source community that "gave back" just because...
They / we didn't give our time to the community looking for something in return we did /do it for the fun of it. If there are benefits to that? Great, enjoy.
If you're looking for returns on your investment, get back to work and keep doing what you do so well and reap the benefits. Quit looking to ride on the backs of many that have come before you and worked their butts off for free just to make a few bucks.
If you guys didn't have your heads so far up yur *sses, you might think about this another way, how can the community work from within to make it better for all concerned. But nooooo that's too easy huh?
pnThemes -- Downloads section is a wasteland. Not only does literally no one use it, it sucks to promote your themes or whatever else you wanted to offer.
The downloads module itself should have been revamped long ago to reflect it's users needs and has been all but ignored. Even postnuke the package is located in an area that is "non - postnuke" because this module sucks so bad.
This is the fault of the management of this project for not listening to it's users and making changes that would benefit all of us. This is the fault of the community for not speaking up loud enough to be heard upstairs.
The downloads area is only one example of many...
You want to make money? Great. I like money too.
But this is postnuke. If you don't know what that is, well then why are you doing anything for others here at all? What should be defined clearly is what postnuke is. The rest becomes a moot point if you have this in hand.
We don't unfortunately, this is yet another fault of the management team. We have had one game after the next for too many years and these actions are now coming to bear it's fruits.
Take that look of greed off of your face fellas, it's making a few of you look quite ugly. postnuke will run fine without any intervention of
AutoTheme or "for profit" modules no one else can work on or innovate/advance over time as the code is encrypted.
Take a look at the stats here on these sites, what you and others have been fighting over for far too long has and will continue to hurt this once great community.
Many are still using postnuke, and they are registered pnUsers. They avoid these kinds of debates and controversy for a reason. It sucks.
Taking a poll or two here on the forums where it's seen by far fewer people than a news item of the latest greatest from the labs of lobos is crazy. Wording it so as to be too confusing to make a rational choice is also, crazy.
pnManagement has ignored this community for far too long and the results as we see here are not unexpected.
It's YOUR community, but that doesn't entitle you to make money off of the backs of others. Go do it somewhere else. This is a community not a commercial product.
For example, I have promoted Shawn's and Adam's sites on my site many times. I have never had a problem doing that. I am also quite sure others feel the same way. We are helping each other to get ahead this way. This is the idea of community support from a community oriented project, and that is a good thing.
You want to "dabble" into the commercial world and make your income? More power to you. Do it on your own site, best of luck to you. When you come here you should be leaving your commercial aspirations at the door. postnuke is only your starting point, what you do with it once you get home is up to you.
I really love that the people voiting no are not very vocal on Backing Up their reasons for doing so, while the yeses do.
Howdayuhlikemenow bub?
, but shouldn't it be zombie 
