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PostNuke Blue 100%?
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Any recommendations: I'm looking for a theme that is either a hack of the post nuke blue or is similar but is 100% and will better handle an embedded pnphpbb. Thanks... GZ -
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Check this post (note search terms). Be sure to search the forums first before posting. :)
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I don't think so, but I'd say just examine the HTML of the non-Xanthia version and use the included graphics & apply to the Xanthia theme...
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The theme referred to:
PostNukeBlue 100
Also in my sig...
Haven't installed Xanthia yet, much less played with themes lately, so haven't gotten around to porting it.
I noticed before PN0.76, it was suggested to include a 100% version of PostNukeBlue, but that was nixed by one of the lead developers... :( -
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Calling PNBLue 100 is a bit misleading as it still has that vertical PostNuke graphic on the left. I eliminated it in my version of PN blue. For awhile, I had a problem with the graphic atop the left column that contains part of the horizontal graphics not lining up the same in Netscape, leaving a notch. However, in checking it now to make a screen cap to show it, the problem disappeared. The theme is the same in IE, N7 and Opera 7. -
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That graphic is one of the things that makes PNblue distinctive, people can put their own logo/graphic there. The theme is nevertheless 100% width. Accounting for obscure browser quirks can be hard, especially when they relate to bugs in specific versions that may be fixed in an update. Modern browsers are a lot better than they used to be, even IE. I don't keep legacy versions of browsers on my computer to test, though. I just upgrade the bastards :) I use Netscape 7.1 and Firebird 0.7 as my main browsers (Firebird needs its bookmarks management finished before I can switch).
Does this Notch have anything to do with your modifications? I haven't updated it in some time, but is it current?
I once read in relation to Netscape/Mozilla where gaps were appearing next to some graphics in pages that worked fine in other browsers, it can be triggered by the HTML Doctype in Strict mode, but PN should be using Transitional. It could be anything down to a space appearing in a cell, even just from a newline in the HTML code which appear as a space. You could post a link, if it's a live site. Sourcecode can be more informative than screencaps, unless it's an intermittent bug. -
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Martin,
I've taken your 100% postnuke blue, ported it to Xanthia and replaced the stock postnuke blue xanthia version with this one. This version of the theme can be either fixed with or 100% controllable from the pagewidth setting in the xanthia admin panel. It will be in the next xanthia RC but in the mean time see http://pnlab.markwest.me.uk/index.php.
Thanks for fixing this one up for us...
-Mark
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i just installed your version and i noticed a few things.
The footer isn't centered / full width
When you change the right site column width the input box takes a maximum of 4 characters. Tried to fill in 200px but only came to 200p :) However it seems to work. -
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tycho
i just installed your version and i noticed a few things.
If you mean my Xanthia version then it's not really ready for release; it'll be part of the next XTE RC. Unless you have Xanthia from CVS then you'll also notice you've a double set of meta tags and the like. I've still some further cross browser testing, HTML tidying and CSS checks to do. There are some display issues to solve when viewing the theme in mozilla (all looks ok in IE and opera).
My post was to give Martin a heads up that i'd taken his work and ported it to Xanthia.
-Mark
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Cool, glad it's of use to someone, Mark. You forgot to put ?theme=PostNukeBlue on the URL for people to see:
http://pnlab.markwest.me.uk/index.php?theme=PostNukeBlue
I notice a number of display problems on Mozilla FireFox 0.8 (Yah, they went and changed the name AGAIN!), as you mention, but as I don't know the Xanthia theme system, can't say why that is. If it's similar to AutoTheme, using an HTML template, I'd think there shouldn't be these problems if the HTML and stylesheets are the same.
I haven't spent much time on PN in recent times, been meaning to get back to it... :( Gotta install Xanthia just to see what it's all about. I don't have any CVS software, so I'll have to wait and see the theme code. Tried to register on the site, but got errors.
I think what people are referring to in the footer is the gap at the left caused by the PostNuke logo graphic. That was quite intentional, in line with the original PNBlue theme. I don't know about the Input box. The width of the right side is kind of fixed by the graphic under the header, although it can be changed to suit. If the background of the left Postnuke graphic was changed to some pastel blue/purple, then the main table wouldn't seem off-center anymore. That or extending the left side, but I personally like it lining up with the column. That could easily be overcome too, with the bar colour slightly different where it's extended. I'll try and make time sometime to experiment. -
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Martin,
I'm aware of the firebird/fox issues. If you take a look at the source then i've been modifying the themes to a stricter level of HTML and there appear to be some differences in the way firebird handles inline styles on tables compared to the same supplied via a more traditional but deprected table/tr/td attribute. It may well be that I rebulild the header entirely to be less reliant on spacer images and the like.
Thus far i've most of the themes HTML 4.01 strict with some XHTML 1.1 compliant. But this has resulted in a number of cross browser issues that need ironing out. As of last night the Seabreeze theme on my test site is a fully tableless layout (and looks good on most browsers i've tried).
The signup on my test site doesn't quite work right as yet as i'm still tidying up the code on this. For Xanthia if you've not looked at it yet i'd wait until the next RC as there are a few changes in the theme structure, many bug fixes and some performance enhancements that are worth having.
-Mark
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Mozilla handles STRICT doctypes somewhat differently from TRANSITIONAL, and others have noted gaps appearing next to some graphics. I think you're better off using Transitional, but code for XHTML if you like. The whole XHTML thing was due largely to the prediction of various mobile devices with slower processors having web browsers. Your average PN site won't look good on a mobile phone anyway, even 3G ones. I don't see XHTML as an urgent consideration, but that's the way it's heading, so why not...
Try with
This is a Mozilla issue, to do with Strick interpretations of the finer details of the standards, as opposed to how things have been done traditionally.
PS: I'm sick of the damn Document Contain No Data problem in PN foums, been trying for hours... Don't know that it could be my danm ISP, cause the website itself loads fine. -
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Martin,
Thanks for the info. Your post gave me enough info to locate some more information on this effect and some definitive documentation on this. The key phrase is 'quirks mode' and the definitive information is in this document. I've flipped postnukeblue100 back to transitional (locally anyway) and all looks well.
This gives me a bit of breathing space (as postnukesilver did the same thing) from which I can now look in more detail at each theme and how best to bring them up to more complete standards compliance. I'm keen to do this as much of tables based layout needs to be removed for accessabilities sake. But to have a few themes done this way is a good start.,
I very, very occasionally get 'document contains no data' but haven't done so of late - it does seem to be only on pnphpbb2.
Thanks again.
-Mark
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