Dizkus

I've seen that you have used pieces of code I wrote for envolution (in particular in the Xantia copied from Encompass, but I'm sure also other pieces).
The comments are the same as the indentation of the whole thing.
This is no problem to me since envolution is covered by GPL.
As you should know GPL require that you give the credits to the owner of the code.
So please add me to your credit file, here are my data (and the one of a colleague of mine who helped me to write the code):
Luca Gioppo (Envolution developer) working for CSI Piemonte - Italy
Marco Pochettino (Envolution developer) working for CSI Piemonte - Italy

I appreciate your kindness
Luca

From the docs/credits file:


As for credit in the Xanthia module, I would guess you should contact them.

Regards
Alf

I just did a search of the entire envolution code. And the names are listed in the credits file only :

Csipiemonte - Luca Gioppo - Developer
Csipiemonte - Pochettino Marco - Developerr

So I do not know for sure which code you have done and not. If you can let me know for sure what code is your code I will definitely put the credit there if it is still used. Xanthia is still being changed so possible, your code may be removed.

Larry E. Masters
Xanthia Developer
PostNuke Development Team

That is correct because Encompass is part of eNvolution core, Oracle integration also is distribuited in all files of core.
You have copied only one part.


For that is very easy, you can send me email and i can tell you who have writed part of code you have copied so you can respect all credits.

eNvolution has forked from PostNuke and we have keep all credits .... but oups ... so now PostNuke have forked from eNvolution ?

Give it a rest TiMax.

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Friends rock, bullshit walks

Who gives you the right to be so practice substantial !
We don't speak about the actual release 0.726. We speak about Xanthia theme engine as part of your CVS and the upcoming version .8
Your Citroen (Xanthia) is nothing without our Encompass theme engine. That is a fact. Another point is, that you search since two years for an Oracle-solution.
And now you can get it to do nothing from eNvolution. Very easy, isn't it?
But respect the credits.
Nobody will be angry and will through away PostNuke if you can admit that some parts of new version ( I mean .8 ) is know-how from eNvolution-Team.

And it would be easier if we can work together. Then it would be also easier for you to integrate Encompass and Oracle into your code.

But unfortunately some of PN-developers are not interesting as you can see here:
http://www.envolutio…ead&order=0&thold=0

WindMeUp
[eNvo-DevTeam]

Working together is all well and good, but only if everyone is willing to, and be civil, to one another.

It will never happen if everyone keeps bitching between themselves, and trying to undermine each others projects.

So some code was used, but thats the benefit of open source, that projects can work and feed off one another.

Sure credits should, and need, to be given, but what seeems to have happened here is a simple mistake, so why the arguing? This just creates bad feeling and resentment between the projects.

Now the correct information is available, the credit can be added, we can leave this discussion there.

I do not normally get involved in "politics", but this seems stupid, there is no point in the constant arguing. Settle down and get to what we should be best at, serving the community.

If we cant work together, then at least, as i said above, be civil.

There is no need to raise this as a public discussion, if you feel you should have been credited, then contact the correct person, dont raise it here, that is again, trying to undermine the project.

Can we not leave this behind now?

"Open source at work is taking the best ideas floating around the web and building a product out of them"

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Regards,
Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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Stefan,

Please calm down a little - a simple error has occured that can be easily fixed. Encompass is a module of Envolution not part of the core - each module can have a pndocs directory to contain any module specific credits.

It's not automatic to assume that everyone who worked on envolution also worked on the encompass engine (I know I have not worked on every aspect of the PN code incuding Xanthia) - if this is indeed the case then we'll place the full envolution credits file in the pndocs directory of the xanthia module as it should be. All of the in-code credits are still in tact.

Following through the envolution CVS for the encompass module the credits that should be added are for changes in the envoution_1-2 branch. All other files in CVS seem to be untouched versions initially imported into the CVS by either Max or Scott.

(references)
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1-0-0/html/modules/Encompass/
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1-0-1/html/modules/Encompass/
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1-1-0/html/modules/Encompass/
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1-1-5/html/modules/Encompass/
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1.2/html/modules/Encompass/
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/envolution/envolution_1.2.5/modules/Encompass/

Let's not let something as simple as a genuine oversight cause this kind of uproar. A simple message to Larry, myself or any of the team here would have sufficed - problem solved, issue sorted etc.

-Mark

Hey guys sorry to chime in here but if you want to know Timax and a few of us were there forom the begining. Some people like me dont have my name written all over the place but have contributed more to encompass and envo than you ever have. You can ask many out there who really know (timax is one of them) how many hours was spent working on envo before you guys came on board.

I didn't stuff my name all over the code either. It's no big deal if your a decent coder the people who matter will know you for it. This is all so petty.

Anyway since I'm the one who brought the code to PN and put much blood sweat and tears into it before you guys were ever even around and since the version we based xanthia on was older than yours and since we even had the blessing of of the original authors(I was not the orginal author but brian virgin was and I contributed much to it later on as PM and lead dev for envo for it's first 5 or 6 months) I dont even begin to see were you guys have the right to complain now. Anybody and everybody that had a say in this knew about it months ago.

We have been very good about adding credits were credits are due and I personnaly still have contact with Timax also.

I m happy to see that all issue are solved, so you add credits and all is right.

Now only for fun read here if you want :

http://mods.postnuke…der=0&sid=1553#7161

and here
http://cvs.sourcefor…pass/pnadminapi.php
or here
http://cvs.sourcefor…mpass/pnuserapi.php

@Brook I remember your work, but i remember you that your name still in eNvolution credits and in some parts of code you have modified.

It's very important to credit someones work. But sometimes its hard to explain to folks why graphics by Stinkbat and code by Weaselteets is emblazened on some of the modules (just funny made up names). I just wish they would be required to use the standard names their parents endowed them with in the credits. :D

Top secret Matrix-like code names are fine for forums and general communication but why wouldn't you want your real name on something as slick as PostNuke?

On another note from here on out I want to be known as Farfle Peebsnappers.

Thanks,
Ken...no I really mean it...Ken

I dont believe you ;)

my real name is... well you can guess :)

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Regards,
Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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Mr Hammer Head isn't it ;)

-Mark